ashspace.org

Recent updates:
[August 2026: Downloadable versions of the people archives are now available below. And the security certificate expiry issue is resolved.]
[July 2025: Unfortunately, pages directly describing suicide methods have been made unavailable (HTTP error 451) due to changes in European law.]
[January 2025: Updated EverDawn's reliability/peacefulness calculator.]
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[2008: is the year when I think I started hosting this material. Partly accumulated by myself and partly inherited from former maintainers.]


This is ashspace

Sorry you're here, as they say.

This domain serves to collect a few resources that may be of interest to ashers: people involved with the alt.suicide.holiday newsgroup and its numerous offshoots, generally concerned with the individual's right to die.

Documents on this site are provided mainly for historical purposes (so there may be broken links and so on). If you are actively suicidal, you should explore all your options, including options like not dying, or getting psychiatric support. In particular, do not assume that any information on medical matters or suicide methods is necessarily accurate; it is hard to compile such information in a society that opposes suicide, and much is hearsay.

If you want to publish something here, or to archive an ash-related site that is no longer active (including personal Web sites of ashers), that might be possible: contact the site maintainer.

Archives

Here's an archive of the original ash Web site that existed from 1993 to 2002 under various maintainers, most memorably at ash.xanthia.com.

There is also an archive of #alt.suicide.bus.stop (or ASBS), which used to consist of a moderated Web forum at ashbusstop.org and an IRC channel on its own private network, but eventually closed down in 2008.

Personal Web sites (archived)

Or you can download copies of the above: Leena - Camilla - Dot - Enigma - [__] - Grey Knight

Other contributions

What ash-descended communities exist?

The original alt.suicide.holiday was a Usenet newsgroup: a kind of forum for plain-text messages, a bit like e-mail. (Usenet existed even before Web browsers, and is still around, but largely abandoned these days.) Since then, there have been various other incarnations, such as IRC channels (Internet Relay Chat, where people can exchange typed messages in real time) and Web-based message boards. These have been operated by various different people under various different rules.

As of 2026, you might try these:

Remember that suicide discussion groups are a particularly easy target for "trolls", or online troublemakers.

What ash-descended communities do NOT exist?

Well, for pure historical interest, here are some old links that probably don't work.

What is that blue flower icon?

It is the Myosotis arvensis, or "forget-me-not".


Last update to this page: Aug 23 2026.