Sorry you're here, as they say.

This domain serves to collect a few resources that may be of interest to ashers: people involved with the newsgroup and its numerous offshoots, generally concerned with the individual's right to die.

Documents on this site are provided for reference only. If you are actively suicidal, you should explore all your options, including options like not dying, or getting psychiatric support. In particular, do not assume that any information on medical matters or suicide methods is necessarily accurate; it is hard to compile such information in a society that opposes suicide, and much is hearsay.

If you want to publish something here, or to archive an ash-related site that is no longer active (including personal Web sites of ashers), that might be possible: contact the site maintainer.

What is here?


Here's an archive of the original ash Web site that existed from 1993 to 2002 under various maintainers, most memorably at The archive is somewhat out of date, with many broken links, and will no longer be updated. It is preserved here for historical purposes.

There is also an archive of #alt.suicide.bus.stop (or ASBS), which used to consist of a moderated Web forum at and an IRC channel on its own private network, but eventually closed down in 2008.

And here is the alt.suicide.methods reference, "a practical guide to suicide".


Personal Web sites

What ash-descended communities exist?

Here are the ones I've heard of that still seem to be around. I cannot vouch for the extent to which they follow (or even know about) the traditional ash ethos. (Note: this section is probably a bit absurdly out of date by now. Sorry.)

Bear in mind that suicide discussion groups, because of their emotional nature, are a particularly easy target for "trolls", or online troublemakers.


Last update to this page: Sep 13 2018.